{"id":4263,"date":"2016-01-20T02:13:39","date_gmt":"2016-01-20T06:13:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.fiqhulislam.co\/?p=4263"},"modified":"2016-01-20T02:13:39","modified_gmt":"2016-01-20T06:13:39","slug":"difference-ilm-ghaib-ilm-baatini","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.fiqhulislam.com\/?p=4263","title":{"rendered":"Difference between Ilm Ghaib and Ilm Baatini"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Many people have the false notion that if a peer (shaikh) can read the mind of a person or has the ability to concentrate on the condition of his disciples (murideen) from far away, that this is a sign that the shaikh is righteous and he is accepted in the sight of Allah. Below the greatest khalifah of the Qutubul Aqtaab, Baqiyatus Salaf, Maulana Muhammad Zakariyah Kandhalvi, Faqeehul Ummah Mufti Mahmoodul Hasan Gangohi (\u0631\u062d\u0645\u0647\u0645\u0627 \u0627\u0644\u0644\u0647) dispels this false notion.\u00a0He also discourages from trying to acquire this ability.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Difference between Ilmul Ghaib and Ilm Baatini<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Question:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">It is famous that Shaiks know the conditions of their disciples. They concentrate (tawajjuh) from far away. What is the difference between this and Ilmul Ghaib?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Answer:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Concentration (tawajjuh) or Ilm Baatini is one thing, while Ilmul Ghaib is another. \u00a0Allah,\u00a0<strong>alone,<\/strong> has it (ilm ghaib). It is mentioned in the Quran Karim:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>\u0648\u064e\u0639\u0650\u0646\u062f\u064e\u0647\u064f \u0645\u064e\u0641\u064e\u0627\u062a\u0650\u062d\u064f \u0627\u0644\u0652\u063a\u064e\u064a\u0652\u0628\u0650 \u0644\u064e\u0627 \u064a\u064e\u0639\u0652\u0644\u064e\u0645\u064f\u0647\u064e\u0627 \u0625\u0650\u0644\u0651\u064e\u0627 \u0647\u064f\u0648\u064e<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">And with Him are the keys of the unseen; none knows them except Him. \u00a0{An\u2019am:59}<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>\u0648\u064e\u0644\u064e\u0648\u0652 \u0643\u064f\u0646\u062a\u064f \u0623\u064e\u0639\u0652\u0644\u064e\u0645\u064f \u0627\u0644\u0652\u063a\u064e\u064a\u0652\u0628\u064e \u0644\u064e\u0627\u0633\u0652\u062a\u064e\u0643\u0652\u062b\u064e\u0631\u0652\u062a\u064f \u0645\u0650\u0646\u064e \u0627\u0644\u0652\u062e\u064e\u064a\u0652\u0631\u0650\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">And if I knew the unseen, I could have acquired much wealth. {Al-A\u2019raaf:188}<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>\u0642\u064f\u0644 \u0644\u0651\u064e\u0627 \u0623\u064e\u0642\u064f\u0648\u0644\u064f \u0644\u064e\u0643\u064f\u0645\u0652 \u0639\u0650\u0646\u062f\u0650\u064a \u062e\u064e\u0632\u064e\u0627\u0626\u0650\u0646\u064f \u0627\u0644\u0644\u0651\u064e\u0640\u0647\u0650 \u0648\u064e\u0644\u064e\u0627 \u0623\u064e\u0639\u0652\u0644\u064e\u0645\u064f \u0627\u0644\u0652\u063a\u064e\u064a\u0652\u0628\u064e<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Say, [O Muhammad], &#8220;I do not tell you that I have the depositories [containing the provision] of Allah or that I know the unseen. {An\u2019am:59}<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">What connection does Ilm Batini have with Ilm Ghaib?[1]\u00a0It (ilm baatini) can be acquired through <strong>exercises<\/strong> and it is <strong>not<\/strong> a sign of acceptance (qabuliyah in the sight of\u00a0Allah).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Closeness to Allah is acquired by the favour (fadhl) of Allah and is also a sign of acceptance.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Question:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Exercises should not be made with the intention that one will know the conditions of his\u00a0desciples?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Answer:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Yes of course. However some people do it with this intention.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Fatawa Mahmoodiyah<\/span> Vol.30 Pg.402-403<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>[1] Rhetorical question<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Many people have the false notion that if a peer (shaikh) can read the mind of a person or has the ability to concentrate on&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_editorskit_title_hidden":false,"_editorskit_reading_time":0,"_editorskit_is_block_options_detached":false,"_editorskit_block_options_position":"{}","footnotes":""},"categories":[2,33],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4263","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aqidah","category-articles","wpcat-2-id","wpcat-33-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fiqhulislam.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4263","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fiqhulislam.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fiqhulislam.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fiqhulislam.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fiqhulislam.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4263"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.fiqhulislam.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4263\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fiqhulislam.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4263"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fiqhulislam.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4263"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fiqhulislam.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4263"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}